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I am James Cassidy based in Ireland and i am looking for help understanding Joomla! 1.5.23 which is installed on our webstore at the moment. We are running a promotion with a national magazine in which customers are invited to enter a phrase when they visit the site and they will receive a 15 % discount on their purchases at checkout, I am very new to joomla and my job is to enter product data. Please help me to understand a solution to the issue above.
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Just a couple of observations from keeping an eye on this thread.

"Is upgrading simple to achieve?" Moving from 1.5.23 to the last Joomla 1.5 version (1.5.26) is pretty straightforward. Moving to 2.5 is not. It's not an upgrade, it's a migration. Rather than write it all out here, I've explained it in more detail here http://www.lelink.net/technical-help/migration

As you are faced with a major change anyway, it's a good time to have a long hard look at what else you might like to do at the same time. Virtuemart were incredibly slow in providing a 2.5 version - it took them months. That doesn't fill me with confidence in their ability to provide a timely upgrade for 3.0 and 3.5. Many developers already have 3.0 versions published - but not Virtuemart. It might be a good time to look at another e-commerce extension. Hika Shop is very popular.

As Laurie says, try to avoid poking things about too much right now. You could do something nasty! Don't get too worried about using 1.5 for the immediate future. It's a good, stable and very popular platform. But change is inevitable.

Ian
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Pleased you see where I'm coming from. I was borne a rick taker.

We do have a webhosting package and our own domain

Yes, I understand that. What I meant was to get a domain of your own and a small hosting package to learn on.

In Australia, I use Crazy Domains for my domains. The cheapest is a .net at $7 a year. They also have hosting, pretty cheap, but I use more expensive hosting. You can get the hosting that you need for a practice site for around $3.95 a month, taken over a couple of years.

Or else, go to joomla.org and sign up for a free, one month trial, all set up to go with a blank Joomla site.

But, yes, to engage a Joomla developer for the commercial site would be a good move.
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Thanks Laurie
I shall endeavour to find a competent Joomla developer and present your sound advice to said individual. We do have a webhosting package and our own domain - http://www.edenireland.com.
You are right on the money with most of your observations. "If you don't have a reliable backup of the site, then I strongly suggest you stop fiddling while you're in front. A commercial Joomla site with e-commerce is no place for a novice to be learning" was a real wake up call for me -thanks again..

Regards

James
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Is upgrading simple to implement? i backed up my site via ftp to my server,


Wondering what that means. If it means that you did a backup of the whole site using Akeeba Backup and downloaded it using FTP, then that's fine. If it means you downloaded what you can see in FTP, then your database isn't backed up and you're pretty well no further ahead.

If you don't have a reliable backup of the site, then I strongly suggest you stop fiddling while you're in front. A commercial Joomla site with e-commerce is no place for a novice to be learning.

Do you, in fact, have Super User permissions?

Given that the site version is so outdated, I suspect it hasn't had a competent webmaster for some time. If I correctly read your level of expertise, I'd say it would be irresponsible to give you Super User permissions.

So here's the short term way forward:

* Install Akeeba backup
* Do a full backup
* Download the backup file
* Upgrade to the latest Joomla 1.5 version, 1.5.26
* Do another backup and download

That makes your site reasonably safe.

You probably won't take the following advice, but here it is:

* Get a web hosting package and a domain
* Install the latest Joomla version, currently 2.5.8
* Build a basic Joomla website as a learning experience
* After you've been expanding this site for a few months, add an e-commerce solution and work on that for a while

Then you may be ready to cautiously work on your employer's commercial site.

NOTE: Upgrading to J1.5.26 is a prerequisite for migrating the site to J2.5. In the short term, J1.5.26 will give the latest security available before J1.5 was put out to pasture.

Migrating from J1.5 to J2.5 is a task for a Joomla developer; no task for a beginner, on a site like yours.

Hope you find this helpful and are not crushed by it. I'm not known for niceties and sweet BS.
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Especially seeing that there is some e-commerce running here...my number one issue would be to upgrade the site to the latest 1.5 version at the very least. The latest 1.5 version is 1.5.26. You can find the info and download link here:
http://www.joomla.org/announcements/release-news/5419-joomla-1526-released.html

Always back up before upgrading.

Virtuemart's support is dicey, so good luck. Something like a coupon code should be pretty simple though, so keep at figuring that out.
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Thanks Robert

I downloaded a virtuemart coupon extension which allows me to create coupons with variables but when i hit publish, theres no indication of the coupons whereabouts in the front end...using VirtueMart 1.1.8..
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Thanks Ian
Is upgrading simple to implement? i backed up my site via ftp to my server, i was wondering if you had experienced using the coupon function in virtuemart, i have created a coupon but it does not seem to have any effect, Do i need to initialize it anywhere or assign a position to a drop down menu or something along these lines?
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James
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Don't get too stressed about backing up - just download and install Akeeba Backup (if it hasn't been installed already). They have excellent documentation - https://www.akeebabackup.com/documentation.html

Once backed up, just make sure you download a copy to your local machine/network ie don't leave it on the server only. That way you're covered in the event of any disaster!

Yes, 1.5 has been replaced by 2.5 and 3.5 is just around the corner - but I really wouldn't worry about that right now. 1.5 is a robust platform and will continue to work well into the future. Long enough for you to get more familiar with Joomla.

I'd strongly recommend that you pay for membership here. This will give you access to Richard's videos on backing up using Akeeba, as well as a host of other tools and information.

Good luck!

Ian
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James, I have to wonder how up to date your site is considering it's Joomla 1.5. Are the E-commerce portions all compatible with the newer regs and security? It might be the time to think about upgrading.
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I'm sorry James but this doesn't make sense to me.

What's the issue?

Do you mean you need help on how to set up a discount code to automatically give a 15% discount at an online checkout?

If that's your question, it may be better addressed to the support people of the shopping cart developer, maybe their forum or their help files.

I suspect you're way out of your depth with the site. Be sure to regularly backup the site and download the backup, because you're in danger of destroying it in one foul click. Should that happen, you'll likely need a Joomla developer to restore your backup or at least fix the problem.
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Thanks Laurie

That is the question, I will follow up on the virtuemart lead and i am now worried about the backup development.

Thanks for your input. much appreciated..
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